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17 March 2007 @ 04:11 am
Climbing uphill both ways.  
I'm still enamored of [info]frost_light's Rudy post. :) So I thought I'd write down my own story, mostly for my own benefit. Hers was inspiring. Mine is long and cringe-worthy. Very, very long and cringe worthy.



First of all, I never wanted to be a writer. Never. I wanted to be a scientist*. Writing was a nice hobby, something I did for fun, on the side. It was certainly not serious work. More of an extension of reading.

When I had to drop out of college and found myself at home with first one child and then the second child and a computer, it seemed natural that I would steal an hour or two a day and type out the weird stuff in my head for the heck of it. But still, I didn't want to be a writer. I was just suffering a minor setback on my way to becoming a SCIENTIST.

I had two novels written when I decided to query an agent. I've done no research. I wasn't sure what an agent did. It just seemed like a good idea at the time. So I took my freshly completed novel #2 (novel #1 was a part of a trilogy and I didn't want to query until I had everything written out) and sent it to this nice person I saw soliciting submissions on one of the message boards.

I was sure she would sign me up. Positive. One hundred percent. I had this super cool story about a girl and werewolves and vampires. It was awesome.

For two weeks I kept checking my mailbox. One fine morning the package came. I tore it open and rejection. Boom. Pow. Crash and Burn.

At this point most people would do some research. I am not normal people. My attitude was, "To hell with the agents! I'm going to go straight to the publisher!"

So I sent the manuscript to one of the New York Sci-fi/Fantasy publishers. It came back, stamped, "We don't accept unsolicited submissions." Not sure what unsolicited submission was, I still deciphered that as a no.

So I tried an electronic publisher, Hardshell. Six months later I had my first legibile feedback and I remember it very well, "Your novel is filled with grammatic and punctuation mistakes. These mistakes can be fixed, however, it's just like Laurel Hamilton's story and we don't need another heroine just like Anita Blake."

Who the hell is Laurel Hamilton?

Having inhaled the first couple of Laurel Hamilton's books, I started to suspect that my novel and her novel were not similar enough to warrant the feedback. Yes, they were in the same genre; yes, they both had a female heroine; but my Vera Voron wasn't really similar to Anita Blake. (Still, just like there is no such thing as a harmless one night stand, there is no such thing as a harmless editorial feedback. I've thought about that crit for weeks.)

At this point, I felt like beating my head on the wall. Nobody wanted my stuff. Suddenly this hobby became a source of a lot of stress. I wanted to know why nobody wanted it. What the hell was so wrong with it?

I had been making circles around OWW, trying to decide if it was a scam. I've been in a small email critiquing group for awhile, and it was sort of falling apart. Having decided that OWW probably wasn't a scam and if it was, I'd be out $40 - no big deal, I joined OWW. And got my very first crit, "Your characters are like cartoon characters, like Homer Simpson, or something. Your writing is like cartoon writing. It just terrible."**

Okay. I was about to drop OWW like a bad habit, when my husband, who by that point started writing with me, suggested we wait for more feedback. So I did, and the next crit was from Jeff Stanley, who liked it. He liked it a lot. The next crit was from Larry Payne, who promptly took a grammatic rake to it and rubbed my nose in all the smelly spots. I went and got a grammar book. And read it cover to cover.

Okay, so I didn't totally suck. I started posting chunks of the new thing I was writing, titled "The Dog and the Wheel" and one day Charlie Finlay found it and recommended it for an Editor's Choice. The EC crit was harsh, but by that point I was used to harsh.*** The Dog and the Wheel made it into the Gallery Competition, the winner of which would be published as an e-book by... I don't remember. Baen? Daw? I didn't win. I didn't even get the second place prize, which was an armfull of books. I got feedback however, and it was priceless. The feedback amounted to "this is excellent, but you rely on standard staples of the genre too much."

I kept poking at the Dog and the Wheel for awhile. I still couldn't sell a short story. I was generally pretty miserable about the whole thing. One day I sat down and wrote an opening. It was like nothing I had written before, but it was also a lot like the doomed #2 novel. Gordon was walking by and stopped. Read over my shoulder. "What is this?" "Ahh, just stuff." He read more. He read the whole thing. "You should post this." I posted the opening and got a weird reaction: more. More now. I remember Nora said, "I didn't know you could write like this."*****

Okay. I could do more.

I ripped up the plot from the novel #2, taking only the basic ideas, and Gordon and I wrote a new draft, titled "Lost Dog". Boom, another EC. From Nalo Hopkinson. The EC basically said, "You're a good writer, but your story is mostly doing things wrong."**** I read that feedback. I read it very carefully. And I decided to ignore it. I had my ideas, I knew what the book was about, and I was sorry it didn't click with her, but I wasn't going to change it.

I polished and cleaned my thing and then, prompted by an announcement from TOR, who were looking for new contemporary fantasies, I submitted it.

Fast forward a year and a half, filled with rejection slips for various short stories, and a lot of failed starts on different projects. Finally one of the stories took off and turned into In the Name of the Realm. And I got another EC from Jenni. And that EC was awesome. I understood the criticism and I felt I had earned the praise. It picked me up and carried me through the next three months. Still, by New Year I was ready to be done. I had sunk what felt like years into this hobby with no payoff. It was causing me no end of stress.

I was on the computer, deleting my writing files and picking out stray school papers that had accidentally gotten saved in there, when Pen Hardy Imed me to chat. Let it be said that Pen Hardy is the sole reason I didn't delete the entirety of my writing folder. Because I was ready. Done. Kaput. Basta.

Unless you've been there for a couple of years, it's hard to describe the exact feeling of submitting story after story and getting rejected. The only thing I can compare it to is looking for a job. Picture yourself looking for a job and not being hired. You keep getting envelopes in the mail, but you know they are rejections. At first you apply to your dream job, then to your second-choice job, then to any job that would pay you. But nobody hires. You come to anticipate the words of the rejection letter, because you've seen so many. And you do this month after month after month. You do it for years, again and again, hoping one day somebody will hire you. Eventually you start wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with you or with your brain, because no sane person would be subjecting themselves to this silliness. I was done. But Pen somehow talked me out of it. I still wanted to delete it all, but I promised her I would wait a month or two.

Next week Gordon was checking the email and said, "You have an email from TOR."

The email was from Liz Gorinsky. It said that she read the novel and loved it and would fight for it. I felt like I was walking on a cloud. For about ten minutes. And then the brakes kicked in. I knew how this dance went: everything is great and then I don't win. So I emailed her back and thanked her and settled into waiting.

Three months passed. I emailed to Liz asking if there was any progress. She said that unfortunately there wasn't. She suggested that I give her a reason to bring it up again: sell a story to Big Three, get an agent, do something to make myself visible.

Sell a story to Big Three, hahahahahaha!

Oh fine. I'll go try for an agent. I remembered reading SFF Crow's Nest that had an interview with agents in it. I googled it, found the interview, read it again, and decided to try for Jack Byrne and another agent. Jack Byrne was experienced. The other agent just started out but one of the OWW people had signed up with him, and he seemed okay.

I sent off my electronic query and prepared to wait. Two requests for partial within two hours. Jack beat out the other agent by 45 minutes. I apologized to agent #2 and sent my partial to Jack. Three days pass, request for full. I printed the full out, drove to the post office, sent it out. A week later, a phone call, "Would you like to shake on it?"

Gordon and I had an agent.

Jack went to work. A month later he called. Despite the fact that Liz loved the novel, TOR didn't seem interested. Instead of keep trying there, Jack wanted to withdraw and go someplace else. I shrugged. Story of my life, yes? Do whatever you want with it.

My life was falling apart by that point. Savings were running out. Gordon spent months trying to find a job - and unlike people who say they are trying, my husband actually worked at it. Finding a job for him became full time employment. These problems were causing stress on our marriage. On top of everything we really hated Oklahoma. As soon as I finished my semester******, we would take what was left of the money and get the hell out of Lawton.

In my free time, I didn't write. The Realm was finished and starting a new project seemed pointless. I sunk into an WOW instead. I can level a priest from 0 to 60 in less than three weeks. Escapism R Us.

I was in Strat Undead, healing people, when Jack called. Gordon put the phone to my ear. I was casting spells left and right, trying to keep this idiot group alive. He said, "Anne Sowards at Ace would like to buy 'Lost Dog'. Congratulations."

I said, "That's wonderful, Jack," and typed "Get out of the fog! Get AWAY from the fog!" into the WOW window. We didn't wipe, for which I take sole credit.

Then there was a phone call from Anne, and the editorial suggestions*#, and eventually the contract signing, and a little bit of money, of which we needed every cent. I will always be grateful to Liz Gorinsky. She is a wonderful person, who belived into the book when nobody else did. And I will always be grateful to Pen Hardy - that goes without saying. And to everyone who reviewed and critted and commisserated: my acknowledgments list in the book is a mile long.

I'm working on the sequel now. Believe me, you don't even want me to go into problems I'm encountering there.

Magic Bites (Lost Dog title had to be changed since the dog was cut) will be out March 27. Will Gordon and I win or will we lose? It remains to be seen. If we lose, I don't think I'll become a scientist. I think we'll change the pseudonym and try again.

UPDATE: We're now represented by Nancy Yost of Lowenstein-Yost. Magic Bites was released in March 2007 to good reviews and decent sales. On April 20, 2008, its sequel, Magic Burns, placed #32 on NYT Extended Bestseller List.

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* And I also thought I'd leave marriage and children to other, more patient, women. See how that turned out. O_o

** Yes, I remember that one pretty much word for word, too.

*** Six months on OWW, and you'll smile in the face of most criticism and thank them for their opinion

**** Paraphrasing.

***** I'm sure by now you have figured out that I have memory like a stone tablet: it's hard to get things in there, but once they are chiseled, they stay. Except for the names. I can't recall people's names for the life of me.

****** I had gone back to school to become a SCIENTIST.

*# Please cut this by one third.

 
 
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Frigg[info]frigg on March 17th, 2007 01:32 pm (UTC)
*hugs* - you know, reading it like this, and believe it or not, it actually reads good, like an upward curve and the speed with which you snagged an agent is nothing but impressive!

PS. I wanted to be a scientist as well and have years of natural science studies at Odense University under my belt.
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on March 17th, 2007 02:26 pm (UTC)
I'm suprised. It certainly didn't feel like an upward curve. :)
Rhona[info]rhonawestbrook on March 17th, 2007 02:12 pm (UTC)
I really enjoyed reading your story. :-)
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on March 17th, 2007 02:26 pm (UTC)
Thanks. Glad it was entertaining :)
Michael Merriam[info]mmerriam on March 17th, 2007 02:46 pm (UTC)
That's a great story! I;m glad you posted it; other writers, writers who are serious but need an example of the good things that can happen, need to read stories like yours.

I'm glad you got out of Oklahoma. I know leaving that state was one of the best things I ever did.
Jill Myles[info]irysangel on March 17th, 2007 02:49 pm (UTC)
Just curious, but why is Oklahoma so bad? I actually was offered a job there a few months ago (Tulsa) and had to pass because I couldn't afford to sell my house here in Texas and move, but I'm just curious what makes it so rotten. :)

Mind you, I've never done more than drive through there, so I have no idea except their highways are pretty shite.
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Jill Myles: comic_mouth[info]irysangel on March 17th, 2007 02:47 pm (UTC)
You know, I always wanted to be an archaeologist. Ever since I was a child. Then, someone pointed out to me that they spend all day, every day, with itty bitty tiny brushes in the dirt. I was somewhat daunted, but undeterred. Still my dream job! Then, someone else kindly pointed out that the average salary for an archaeologist is $17k a year...and that you can make more at Burger King.

I grew up excessively poor, and the sound of that totally put the brakes on my dream. There are a lot of things I will do for career happiness, but living on food-stamps is not one of them. :)

Where was I going with this? (Oh, right. I totally get what you are saying, btw.)

And your story is a good one. I actually like it better than the Rudy post, mostly because I have not seen Rudy. :) And I can totally relate to the WOW moment -- I was a hardcore EQ junkie when it first came out. Like, for three years. I didn't get up from my computer except to go to work, and I spent my time at work thinking about my EQ stuff. It's definitely addictive...but then when you stop playing, you're all "OMG! So many hours in the day to fill! I should write something!"
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on March 17th, 2007 03:22 pm (UTC)
I wanted to be an archaelogist too. But Biology won out. Not sure why...

Glad the story was of help :)
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Jeaniene Frost[info]frost_light on March 17th, 2007 03:18 pm (UTC)
This is VERY inspirational! I laughed at how writing was a 'minor setback' on your way to being a scientist. Writing is sneaky like that...you think it's something you'll just try - and then it owns your ass! :) I'm so glad your friend Pen talked you out of deleting all your stories. Yay Pen! You did a lot more research than I did, too. Notice there's no mention of a critique group in my story? This is probably why I had so many damn rewrites!

GREAT post. I didn't find it cringe-worthy at all.

ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on March 17th, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC)
I still like yours better. I look at mine and cringe at the memories.
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[info]miladyinsanity on March 17th, 2007 07:51 pm (UTC)
Discovering writing again was a disaster for my would-be career as a scientist.

Then I found a balance.

PS Will post a link to this in my interview, okay?
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on March 17th, 2007 08:32 pm (UTC)
I'm flattered :) Post away.
pjthompson[info]pjthompson on March 17th, 2007 11:32 pm (UTC)
Excellent post and not at all cringe worthy! Thank God for Pen Hardy, and I'm glad you're in the game, win or lose.
pjthompson[info]pjthompson on March 17th, 2007 11:32 pm (UTC)
P.S. I think you'll win.
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Julie M. Prince[info]jmprince on March 18th, 2007 01:01 am (UTC)
Thanks for sharing your story. I really enjoyed reading about the path you've traveled on the road to success!
Julie M. Prince[info]jmprince on March 18th, 2007 01:03 am (UTC)
oh, and PS...if you get more than one comment from me, it's because I kept losing my connection and having to start over. sorry
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on March 18th, 2007 01:05 am (UTC)
:) Thank you so much for commenting! And please don't be sorry - I'd rather have a comment three times than no comment at all.
Jeaniene Frost[info]frost_light on March 19th, 2007 12:34 am (UTC)
This is a weird question, but...I was telling my husband about your story and how you were playing WOW when you got the news that your book had sold. He's a big WOW fan and wants to know what 'server' do you play in, if you still play?

(I don't play that game, so I confess I don't even know what the hell I'm asking you :)

But if you understand, please reply :)
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on March 19th, 2007 12:40 am (UTC)
Sure :)

I don't play anymore, I had the account deactivated, but when I did play, it was on Ajoul-Nerub. I had a priest at sixty, a paladin at 55, couple of hunters and a druid. Husband had a rogue at sixty, but really prefered his hunters, both on Horde and Alliance side. We had gotten that special purple hyena and the white lion pets for everybody, so for awhile he was the only dwarven hunter parading with a white lion around :)
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Nalo Hopkinson[info]nnaloh on April 28th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
I read that feedback. I read it very carefully. And I decided to ignore it.

NH: *chuckle* Good for you! There are times when that's exactly what you should do. The trick is to learn when it's a good idea to ignore feedback, and when one is ignoring it out of fear. Sounds to me like you had a nose for the difference. I'm glad you hung in, and I'm glad it's working out.
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on April 28th, 2007 04:23 pm (UTC)
Hey Nalo! I didn't know you had an lj. How in the world did you find me?

Don't get me wrong, I'll be always grateful to you. There were things you said that made me a better writer (I remember in particular there was a paragraph of description involving a wasp which you suggested I drop and later I looked at it and thought, "She was right, this is just a random thought" and then I went and cleaned a whole bunch of those out. It enabled me to write much cleaner scenes fromt hat point on.)

But I think that's when I matured as a writer: I was able to look at a critique and say, "No, this isn't the direction I feel I need to take this."
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(Anonymous) on May 13th, 2007 12:19 pm (UTC)
Magic Bites-Loved it
Hi Ilona

Just wanted to let you know that I have just picked up your book and it just blew me away.I have read a lot of urban fantasy and having run a bookshop for the last 8 years know what my readers like and what they don't and you have a hit on your hands-well done to the people at Ace for picking it up.I will be recommending it to our other stores for import from the US.I don't know if you have a UK publisher yet but if you don't check out Piatkus as they have done a good job introducing other similar titles to the British market.I can't wait to read the next one!
(Anonymous) on May 23rd, 2007 12:15 pm (UTC)
Magic bites
Just wanted to say, i love your book.
Will be waiting for any thing you write in the future, but please write a follow up to magic bites as i love the characters & story line you have written in this book.
ellaanabeth[info]ellaanabeth on June 21st, 2007 11:39 pm (UTC)
Wow, it's astounding the stuff you went through to get published. This is something I'd never be able to do- I'm too lazy. :)

What I really wanted to say is how much I enjoyed Magic Bites. I love finding independent authors and their oddity books and Magic Bites is now at the top of my list. I really hope you get that sequel out there because I can't wait to read more about Kate and her universe. The magic/tech spin is so awesome.

Have you ever considered going to SciFi Conventions? It's a great place for an author to really build up a readership- that's a fancy word for meeting and gathering fans. We Con goers may be a lil strange, but we support our people and if you're worried about not having enough exposure, a Con is the perfect place to fix that.

Anyways, I love your writing style, keep on writing!

~~Elaana
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on June 22nd, 2007 02:02 am (UTC)
Hi, Elaana,

I'm so glad the book worked for you :)

Actually I was just at Wiscon. I usually go to local ones but my friends have been inviting me to that one for years, so I broke down and went. So far in my experience, conventions are a great place to chat with all the cool people I know online and get roaring drunk.

In terms of exposure? There were maybe twenty chairs in the room at my reading. The room was two thirds full and I read with Gary who has a ton of clout. :) I found that an lj and a website is a much better promotion tool - I can maintain both at a fraction of the cost it takes for me to fly cross-country.

Which isn't to say I won't ever go again, but if I do, it won't be for exposure, but for hang-out time :P

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(Anonymous) on July 17th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
Great entry
I have to say, reading this post was just...I don't know how to explain it...erm...thrilled? pleased? enlightened?
Oh well. Its just that it felt great and really encouraging to read about all you did and all that pushing that stupid rock up the mountain efforts.
I actually just read 'Magic Bites' and it was fantastic! So I just went on the internet to see if I could found no.2, and well, its coming out in 2008 it seems. Something for me to look forward. As a fellow WoW player, I totally understanding the 'escaping' view. I do it all the time, but I guess rogues have a different type of satisfaction as compared to priests. Mind me asking which server you are in?
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on July 17th, 2007 06:17 pm (UTC)
Re: Great entry
Oksana on Ajol-Nerub :)

I went back to playing a couple of weeks ago and got sucked in. I think I am addicted. Muuuust geet alchemy over 300...

I'm so glad the post and the book were of use :P
(Anonymous) on September 8th, 2007 06:11 am (UTC)
magic bites
Hi,

I've never left a post anywhere before, but after reading your story about what you went through to be published, I felt like my opinion might make a difference (I hope!). Anyway I *should* be studying for the GREs but instead I just finished Magic Bites and wanted you to know that you've got something. I was shocked to find that you had no other published work, because its clear to me that you've got something intangible... something that's great! I hope you keep writing and that your imaginative world finds its audience because as a lover of this (currently totally overplayed) genre, trust me when I say its rare to find truly unique voices and ideas!

By the way, I have read many of LKH's books and I'm so over her and her AB one-dimensionality (also all the sluttiness - wtf?). I can't _believe_ someone told you your world was too similar - as if we all need one tough girl, and there isn't any room for any others! Yikes!

So yeah, I loved the book, will pick up anything else you write, and wish you the best. You seem like a real person doing something admirable! It's inspirational!
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on September 17th, 2007 01:09 am (UTC)
Re: magic bites
Thank you.
Imperius Infernus [Titan][info]infernus1218 on September 26th, 2007 03:17 pm (UTC)
you are nothing like the current Laurell K. Hamilton, you are so much better.

When Kate makes funny sarcastic comments, they don't appear to be forced or something someone would say just to piss people off, they are sarcastic comments coming from from a person who is just tired of dealing with stupid people.

I really do like the book, I like all the little stories that you've interwoven into the main story. I am very glad that you decided not to make Kate out to be a Buffy type of character, who has a Watcher who dispenses advice and random knowledge.

Very well written. I wonder if you will tell us the back story of Slayer (I liked the part where Kate mentions that Slayer has had many names in the past... and I forgot what name it had when it was the bane of lychs... but it was awesome.)
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(Anonymous) on December 7th, 2007 08:33 pm (UTC)
Hi guys!
I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting!
(Anonymous) on December 20th, 2007 10:44 am (UTC)
Magic Bites
Hi there,
Just to let you know I am very happy you persevered. Loved 'Magic Bites' and can't wait for the next one. Please keep writing.
M in NZ
(Anonymous) on March 26th, 2008 05:19 am (UTC)
Never ever give up.
I cannot wait to read more of your work! Its a breathe of fresh air in a genre that can get stale in a hurry. My husband has been after me to write down my stories, and reading about your duo with your hubby gives me hope it might work out.

I look forward to reading more soon!
(Anonymous) on April 6th, 2008 04:52 pm (UTC)
magic burns
the book is great. Hurry up with book 3. can you try to put out at least two books a year in this series. one a year is to long. please give me some more action between kate and curran. love their interaction and the sexual tension you can almost feel between them. The ending on Magic burns was great. how to see new book in Jan. 2009 otherwise I may waste away wondering.
(Anonymous) on April 8th, 2008 01:16 am (UTC)
I have loved books since I was 8 years old and read The Black Stallion. Since that time I have read literally thousands of books. Of those books less than 100 remain on my bookshelves (McKinley, Tamora Pierce, Michelle Sagara are among my favorite authors). Your books are also there. When I find a keeper it really is like finding a needle in a haystack - I am so glad that you and the people that support you persevered.
Simon Haynes[info]halspacejock on May 18th, 2008 04:01 am (UTC)
Congrats on winning out after such a long journey ;-) The OWW (or DROWW as it was back then), was also vital to me. Karin Lowachee and Cecilia Dart-Thornton were posting their first chapters and Charlie Finlay was there too. (See the original Critters Scrapbook! http://www.stevens-arce.com/Critter.html)

I saved all the crits for my novel, and it's great to see Chris Dolley (one of the kind folk who left feedback) in print with his own novels now.

It took me six long, back-breaking years from OWW to publication, but it was worth every minute.
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on May 18th, 2008 10:46 am (UTC)
I came in a little later, just after Karin and Cecilia got their deals. I recall getting something like Cecilia's contract was a huge impossible goal to reach. Now I've been contracted for four books and hit a list. Heh. Odd, that. :)
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Stephen Dedman: Dirty bathrobe[info]stephen_dedman on May 18th, 2008 06:53 am (UTC)
Thanks for this: entertaining, informative, and not entirely unlike the story of how I sold my first novel, an urban fantasy, to Tor in the '90s - though without the detail of an editor (for another publisher) being fired after accepting it but before sending me a contract. (When she found out that I'd sold a story to Ellen Datlow for an anthology, she remarked, "If it had been in Omni, I could get you a contract his afternoon.")

I'm now teaching creative writing; mind if I link to this for the benefit of my students?
ilona_andrews[info]ilona_andrews on May 18th, 2008 10:47 am (UTC)
Don't mind at all, I'm thrilled to be of use.